Deciders

August 17, 2008

Back in the Saddle Again

Fresh off his Hawaian vaca, Barack Obama was back at Saddleback Church Saturday night, this time to answer questions posed by Pastor Rick Warren. John McCain then aswered the same questions. Evidently he was in a closed room and unable to hear Obama’s answers.
Rick Warren did a fine job questioning the candidates. The network moderators should take note. None of this summers “debates” has provided voters with as much relevant information as tonight’s event. Good stuff.
I thought McSame handled himself fairly well. He seemed confortable with the format. He provided viewers with somewhat clear presentation of his flawed policy proposals. The most important question was handled in very different fashion by each candidate. Here is the transcript from each (Obama in blue, McBush in red)…
 
   Q: OKAY WE’VE GOT ONE LAST TIME — I’VE GOT A BUNCH MORE ABOUT LET ME ASK YOU ONE IN EVIL. DOES EVIL EXIST AND IF IT DOES DO WE IGNORE IT, DO WE NEGOTIATE WITH IT, DO WE CONTAIN IT OR DO WE DEFEAT IT?
   A: EVIL DOES EXIST. I MEAN, WE SEE EVIL ALL THE TIME. WE SEE EVIL IN DARFUR. WE SEE EVIL SADLY ON THE STREETS OF OUR CITIES. WE SEE EVIL IN PARENTS WHO HAVE VICIOUSLY ABUSED THEIR CHILDREN AND I THINK IT HAS TO BE CONFRONTED. IT HAS TO BE CONFRONTED SQUARELY AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I STRONGLY BELIEVE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT GOING TO, AS INDIVIDUALS, BE ABLE TO ERASE EVIL FROM THE WORLD. THAT IS GOD’S TASK. BUT WE CAN BE SOLDERS IN THAT PROCESS AND WE CAN CONFRONT IT WHEN WE SEE IT. NOW, THE ONE THINK THAT I THINK IS VERY IMPORTANT IS FOR US TO HAVE SOME HUMILITY IN HOW WE APPROACH THE ISSUE OF CON FRONTING EVIL, BUT YOU KNOW A LOT OF EVIL HAS BEEN PERPETRATED BASED ON THE CLAIM THAT WE WERE TRYING TO CONFRONT EVIL.
  Q: IN THE NAME OF GOOD?
  A: INTO THE NAME OF GOOD. AND I THINK ONE THING THAT’S VERY IMPORTANT IS HAVING SOME HUMILITY IN RECOGNIZING THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE WE THINK OUR INTENTIONS ARE GOOD DOESN’T ALWAYS MEAN THAT WE’RE GOING TO BE DOING GOOD.    
 

   Q: HOW ABOUT THE ISSUE OF EVIL? I ASKED THIS OF YOUR RIVAL IN THE PREVIOUS THING. DOES EVIL EXIST AND IF SO, SHOULD WE IGNORE IT, NEGOTIATE WITH IT, CONTAIN IT OR DEFEAT IT?

  A: DEFEAT IT. COUPLE POINTS, ONE, IF I’M PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, MY FRIENDS, IF I HAVE TO FOLLOW HIM TO THE GATES OF HELL, I WILL GET OSAMA BIN LADEN AND BRING HIM TO JUSTICE. I WILL DO THAT AND I KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. I WILL GET THAT DONE. NO ONE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO TAKE THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN — INNOCENT AMERICAN LIVES. OF COURSE EVIL MUST BE DEFEATED. MY FRIENDS, WE ARE FACING THE TRANSCENDENT CHALLENGE OF THE 21-CENTURY, RADICAL ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS. NOT LONG AGO IN BAGHDAD, AL-QAEDA TOOK TWO YOUNG WOMEN WHO WERE MENTALLY DISABLED AND PUT SUICIDE VESTS ON THEM, SENT THEM INTO A MARKETPLACE AND BY REMOTE CONTROL, DETINATED THOSE SUICIDE VESTS. IF THAT ISN’T EVIL, YOU HAVE TO TELL ME WHAT IS AND WE’RE GOING TO DEFEAT THIS EVIL AND THE CENTRAL BATTLE GROUND ACCORDING TO DAVID PETRAEUS AND OSAMA BIN LADEN IS THE BATTLES — IS BAGHDAD, MOSUL AND IRAQ AND WE ARE WINNING AND WE ARE SUCCEEDING AND OUR TROOPS WILL COME HOME WITH HONOR AND VICTORY AND NOT IN DEFEAT AND THAT’S WHAT’S HAPPENING. WE HAVE — AND WE FACE THIS THREAT THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. IT’S NOT JUST IN IRAQ. IT’S NOT JUST IN AFGHANISTAN. OUR INTELLIGENCE PEOPLE TELL US AL-QAEDA CONTINUES TO TRY TO ESTABLISH CELLS HERE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. MY FRIENDS, WE MUST FACE THIS CHALLENGE. WE CAN FACE THIS CHALLENGE AND WE MUST TOTALLY DEFEAT IT AND WE’RE IN A LONG STRUGGLE, BUT WHEN I’M AROUND THE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE SERVING THIS NATION IN UNIFORM, I HAVE NO DOUBT, NONE.

 
The contrast in the candidates’ logic is crystal clear. Barack Obama recognizes that America must confront evil to succeed. We must confront evil by understanding its roots, message, spread, goals, and tactics. An honest assessment must be presented to the American people. We can then decide as a nation how we wish to deal with “evil” and evildoers.
John McSame couldn’t resist the opportunity to take a page from the Bush playbook when answering the question. He immediately proclaimed that America must defeat evil to succeed. This represents the tired, unsuccessful logic of the neoconservatives. In their view, there is no need for examination of terrorism and other forms of evil. Their philosophy ignores this necessary analysis and jumps straight to the part that lines the pockets of their defense industry chums. We must hunt down and kill or capture every terrorist on the face of the earth, they say. Many of us realize that this is simply not possible. We must focus our efforts on those individuals and entities which pose a threat to America. And the case for military action and government funding for such actions needs to be presented to Americans in a straightforward manner. Only then can we as a nation begin a successful campaign against evil. Barack gets it, McCain clearly does not.
 
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July 22, 2008

Lost In Translation?…Nope!

"The voice on the audio tape calling for withdrawal is not mine. It's that damned Rich Little again. His impersonation of me is almost as good as his W. I would never say such a thing."

"The voice on the audio tape calling for withdrawal is not mine. It's that damned Rich Little again. His impersonation of me is almost as good as his W. I would never say such a thing."

Nouri al-Maliki was NOT misquoted. He really does think it’s time for us to begin “standing down”. Bush and Co. must have needed a vacation from the strenuous task of spinning bad news 24/7 so they decided to outsource a bit of it to Iraq’s Prime Minister. Problem is, when something is recorded, it’s hard to make the argument that you never said it.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#25789333

July 20, 2008

Now that al-Maliki wants us out, What is the Republican Party’s position on troop withdrawal?

"Now you listen to me, Al (Maliki). I'm the Decider and I decide what's best for you, for me, for all."

"Now you listen to me, Al (Maliki). I'm the Decider and I decide what's best for you, for me, for all."

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/maliki_obama

Should we stay or should we go? Since it appears that the Iraqis are “standing up”, isn’t it time for us to “stand down”? Oh no, my mistake. That was LAST election’s RNC talking point. I’ll wager that the republican party line on the Sunday morning talk shows goes a little something like this…”So much has changed since the stand up/stand down mantra was introduced. The Iraqis don’t realize the danger they’re in. Only Bush/Cheney/McCain can protect them. If we withdraw from Iraq and Obama is elected (gasp!), our children will be raised in an Arabic-speaking U.S.A and Israel will be wiped off the map”.

The repubber fear machine will be full throttle in no time now- guaranteed.

July 18, 2008

Bob Schaffer(R) Senate candidate from Colorado puts Profits Before American Lives

Now THIS is what I call a BUSINESS trip, huh honey???!!

Now THIS is what I call a BUSINESS trip, huh honey???!!

"It's like I've told you folks before, aint nuthin wrong with makin a little money off the war"

"It's like I've told you folks before, aint nuthin wrong with makin a little money off the war"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Abramoff pal and Colorado senatorial candidate Bob Schaffer(R) was forced to admit today his involvement in an oil deal in Iraq that was “counterproductive to American interests in the region”. Recap here…http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/17/gop-senate-candidate-fess_n_113431.html.

 

 Bob Schaffer chose to put the economic interests of Aspect Energy ahead of our American security interests in Iraq. And now he wants to serve in the senate? Mark Udall is a better man for the job…http://www.markudall.com/.
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